I may have to go check this one out

"Just Jeepin'" (macintux) 08/06/2020 at 12:05 • Filed to: Jeep, Craigslist

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I’ll be camping in southern Indiana this weekend; sadly this is still a long drive from where I’ll be, but so very tempting.

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Just Jeepin' > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 12:19

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Ooh, and I could visit this S2000 while I’m there.

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/ok-this-ones-a-manual-1844600655

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 12:25

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Enhance:

Enhance:

Refine, extrapolate:

confirmed: DualMatic locking hubs. Stand by for leak.

Kidding aside - these do leak and stick out into traffic , but they’re also pretty reliable, and I think parts availability is pretty okay. Overall a nice extra.

Just Jeepin' > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/06/2020 at 12:30

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Thanks, I’m unfamiliar with that model , will have to do some digging.

sony1492 > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 12:33

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Do that first

Just Jeepin' > sony1492 08/06/2020 at 12:40

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Honestly I’m not sure which one I’d rather have. I’ve wanted both for quite a while.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 12:44

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To operate these, you swing the little levers out, turn them a half turn, and then flip them back into the hub. If they’re sticking/have some grit in them they can be a pain, but they’re at least possible to hit with something/pry loose if stuck. Easier than trying to grab the center of a Warn, that I can tell you.

They have IIRC several gaskets that can leak, and they tend to leak around the O-ring seals on the lever/cam pins. More of a problem if you have a gear oil-filled hub than greased, obviously.

sony1492 > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 12:58

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The s2000 wo uld more readily replace your current heap of issues

Just Jeepin' > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/06/2020 at 12:59

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Interesting anecdote I found while looking through a thread on the DualMatics.

When I was growing up in MN, my dad parked our family’s 1965 Jeep Wagoneer with the front wheels in a snowbank. When he went to leave, the Jeep was stuck and he thought, no problem, I’ll just shift it into four wheel drive. The Jeep had the automatic Warn locking hubs that would automatically engage when torque was applied to the front shafts. Unfortunately for my dad, the grease in the front hubs had congealed so much from being parked in the snow that they failed to spin into gear at first. He revved the motor a bit more which immediately caused the Warn hubs to violently engage, breaking the internals of the hub. The shafts were spinning too fast for the Warn hubs to safely engage apparently. My dad had to dig the Jeep out and replace the Warn hubs. 

Just Jeepin' > sony1492 08/06/2020 at 13:00

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Replace? I’m not getting rid of my heap, thankyewverymuch.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 13:32

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Yeah. Both Warn and M.A.P. made self-lockers really early on, though I don’t know if the Warn ones were ever available for the Land Rovers like the M.A.P. ones were.

The non-auto MAP hubs would use the lug wrench to lock, like this:

I always liked the Fairey style, which I made sure to have on mine, but parts availability is limited.

They’re a little fragile, but they look nice and they’re glovable:

Selectro made one which was very similar, and was available for both Jeeps and Rover s, and also licensed for GMC and some others :

If I had a CJ, that’s what I’d be in the market for.

jminer > Just Jeepin' 08/06/2020 at 13:53

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As a person that owned a early Jeep project I’ll warn you they’re expensive and finicky, also slow as hell. Since that one has the old flat head engine it will be lucky if the thing puts out 50hp and goes 45mph.

They’re neat pieces of history but nearly impossible to turn into something livable on modern roads with the tiny engine bay and crazy short wheelbase.

That all being said they are cool as hell and $3k for a running driving one is a fair(ish) price even with all that rust.

Just Jeepin' > jminer 08/06/2020 at 14:06

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Yeah, definitely not sure about the safety/speed aspects. I’d like to take it through southern Indiana but to get there involves a lot of driving; thankfully I think I can get there on 45 mph roads.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/06/2020 at 15:35

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It’s not a Jeep but I have some old rebuilt Warn hubs. 

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 08/06/2020 at 15:51

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Very nice. Same rough model line Warn as the ones that are on some of my family’s Land Rovers.